The Presbyterian Church, U.S.A. is raising eyebrows after lifting up prayers to Allah at its General Assembly meeting last week. “Allah bless us and bless our families and bless our Lord. Lead us on the straight path – the path of all prophets: Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad.”
These were the words that rang out over the congregation at The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, USA meeting in Portland, Oregon. Wajidi Said, co-founder of the Muslim Education Trust, led the attendees in the prayer to the Islamic deity – a move arranged by the Ecumenical and Interfaith ministry staff at the assembly. READ MORE
The Presbyterian church may NOT be runner-up for leading the ecumential-church (the one-world religion of Revelation–the Roman Catholic church holding that dubious distinction), but it is assuredly close.
DEEPER AND DEEPER,IT’S THE NEW WORLD ORDER
TO WHOMEVER IT MAY CONCERN …
RE: SUBJECT: “DO CHRISTIANS SHARE THE SAME GOD WITH ISLAM”
MY ANSWER: ABSOLUTELY NOT !
Seek ye the truth. Pray all who want the truth receive it.
Question everything, even this. Always verify … ALWAYS !
John 8:32 – And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 14:6 – “…I am the way, the truth …”
Howdy!
I am, David Guardiola, Jr., son to Mary Alice.
Am 59 years in age.
Retired CAD Engineer from Michigan Design Shops for Big Three, 35+ years.
Been debating, discussing “Islam” w/Muslims in forums on YouTube + Islamic web sites for eight+ years.
Muslims have been giving me their criteria of ALLAH, their God.
Following’s why we do NOT share Gods. Muslims say & believe:
1) ALLAH has NO image NO likeness, in the Qur’an.
2) ALLAH has NO other name except ALLAH, in the Qur’an.
3) ALLAH never appeared to anyone, in the Qur’an.
4) ALLAH calls everyone(even angels), “SLAVES”, in the Qur’an.
5) ALLAH won’t impugn Himself by becoming human, say Muslims.
6) ALLAH does not beget nor was begotten, in the Qur’an.
7) ALLAH is not Jesus, but God the Father is, say Muslims.
8) Jesus calls Himself a Muslim, in the Qur’an.
9) Jesus speaks as a baby, in the Qur’an.
10) Jesus was never crucified, in the Qur’an.
11) Surah 4:157 calls anyone who believes Jesus was crucified … a liar !
12) Jesus is NOT God, but a servant(slave) of ALLAH, in the Qur’an.
13) Holy Trinity does not exist, say Muslims & Qur’an.
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14) ALLAH abrogates … ALLAH’s allowed to change it’s mind, called “substitution” or “REPLACEMENT” for something better.
15) ALLAH, however, can NOT force Satan to bow down to Adam, in the Qur’an. This fabrication defines ALLAH’s weakness.
This is but a sample proving we are NOT sympatico with Islam in regards to their diety, or their Arab prophet, or their idea of heaven(Jannah) & their deliberate choice not to share in the Pentateuch but “borrowed” nevertheless, all biblical prophets as their own! Even telling us LOT, ISHMAEL & ADAM are OUR prophets!
They claim all prophets, from Adam to Jesus, are Muslims !!!!!!!!
My proof to negate their claims is simple … GENESIS.
***Genesis 1:26-27 & 9:6 proves our God (YHWH-ELOHIM) created us from His image & His likeness.
***Jesus, walked with Adam in Genesis 3
***Jesus had lunch w/Abraham in Genesis 18 & told about it in John 8:56-58
***Jesus appeared to man in Exodus 6:3 … showing His face.
***God the Father appeared to Moses in Exodus 33:20-23 … but did NOT show His face !
***Holy Spirit also appeared to man as a dove in Luke 3:22 & as a tongue of fire in Acts 2:3
God the Father does NOT abrogate, appeared to man & never called anyone “SLAVES” … hence God the Father is NOT Islam’s God, ALLAH.
Malachi 3:6 “I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT.”
Allah’s abrogation’s contradicts Yunis(Q 10:64), Bee(Q 16:101), Cave(Q 18:27), Baqara(Q 2:106), Al-HIJR(Q 15:9), Al-RAD(Q 13:39)
“A.L.R. This is a book whose verses have been perfected” Q 11:1
“……the words of God are unchangeable” Q 10:64
“Whichever Ayah We “nansakh” or cause to be forgotten We replace it with its equal or with that which is greater, did you not know that God is capable of all things?” Q 2:106
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Again, this is but a small bit-o-info attained from years of questions & answers from Muslims.
Other topics that Islam is NOT at all associated with bible history but actually distorts it making it the antithesis of bible fact:
1) Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c Ishmael is NOT a prophet.
2) Our heaven will NOT have SEX in it. Theirs will !!!!!!!!!!!!
3) Muhammad was NOT circumcised. How’s he from Abraham’s covenant of circumcision?
4) Islam’s created a Muslim Jesus 1,400+ years ago, as prophesied by Paul. Gal 1:8-9
5) WHO FABRICATED words to Jesus in the Qur’an? This is a curse! Rev 22:18-19 & Deut 4:2
6) Islam reversed the roles of Isaac & Ishmael. Qur’an says it was Ishmael who was nearly sacrificed by Abraham. Genesis 22:2 shows it was Isaac.
7) ALLAH has 99 attributes. Jesus has 1,000 attributes. Islam’s scribes STOLE seven of Jesus’ attributes 1,400+ years ago from the bible.
Islam, is based on SEX-DEATH-DECEIT …
Muhammad never saved anybody’s soul but robbed men of their lives, wives, women & wealth.
The “FRUIT” of Islam’s horrific deeds are well documented, world-wide. Matthew 7:20
Muslims do what they do b/c they follow the perfect pattern from Muhammad. Q 33:21
Once you let the world in the door-all Hell will follow.
What an abomination. Thank you, Ednar, for the information from the Koran. Well worth the read.
What an abomination. Thank you, Ednar, for the information from the Koran. Well worth the read.
What an abomination coming from the Presbyterian Church. Thank you, Ednar, for the information you shared from the Koran.
I think this is BS. Where is your proof?
The end result of ecumenicalism, christian worship so diluted and deluded that the Lord is entirely expelled. Chilling.
I don’t care if you print my name. I was at that meeting. The man who prayed in Allah’s name was only supposed to greet the assembly, as our church has been doing work with the Israelis and Palestinians, as well as work throughout the Middle East. He went off script. When some of the delegates filed a complaint, the leadership issued an apology. Please get your news correct. the PCUSA DID NOT pray to Allah. This was a guest who caused the problem
They should research the meaning of Allah,and the bible is the Word of God.Bible declares Jesus as Son of God and Jesus Immanuel-God incarnate,Muslims don’t believe these doctrines including His death and Ressurection. Mohammad s life and teachings is just the opposite of Jesus s life and teachings.Poor Presbyterians, Church in America wake up and tell them the truth and to believe only in the bible : the Word of God.The Muslims believe that Jesus spoke of Mohammad,when Jesus said another person will come after me. Jesus said that, but he was talking about the Holy Spirit whom will come after Jesus returns to His father.This is the error of the Muslim faith.I’m fact ,the Muslims who condemn idol worship, are themselves worshipping the biggest idol,which is the Kaaba. The huge block of stone covered in bla k stone.They are going round the stone and kissing it, which ,of you look at it is truly Idol worship.
THEY HAVE BEEN INVADED..MY ISLAMIC LUNATICS…
THEY HAVE BE INVADED BY ISLAMIC LUNATICS.. I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, JEW OR OTHER..BUT I BELIEVE IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH FOR OTHERS..AND THS IS AN INVASTION.
Sickening!!
I’m shocked,but not surprised that this prayer at the PCUSA General Assembly was to ” Allah” as a former member of a member church ,SOTV Presbyterian Church in Albuquerque,NM. I’ve known for a long time that the apostate church was headed in this direction with people like Rick Warren and his “Chrislam” agenda and the Church’s involvement with the B.D.S movement,ordination of practicing homosexuals ministers,agreement,with same sex marriage,need I go on? GOD help you! John
Let me education you on sonething. Allah is the Arabic word for god. For example lebanon is a majority christian nation with arabic as the national language therefore all christian there refer to god as allah therefore they pray to allah every day. Weather they are catholic, orthodox, or protestant. This post is so full of ignorance it’s rediculus.
Thou shall not have any other Gods before me ! Crying shame that Christians would be this ignorant. Their God is not our God. Our God is the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end.
allah is satan
Jehovah God says: “I am the Lord your God; thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Exodus 20, Deuteronomy 5.
What??? No way….
Our country is gone.
There is only one true God and that is only Jesus the Christ and none other . The White House is all screwed up because the occupant is the first Radical Islamic Terrorist and he supports and defends all Muslims and Islam. When are people going to awaken…not surprised about the Presbyterians, they have been messed up for decades.
now i’m glad I left my church and the pcusa several months ago.
Unbelievable ! So glad I am out of this wickedness!
I MAY JUST LEAVE THE CHURCH–I DON’T PRAY TO allah!
As a Presbyterian I am terribly disappointed in this action. Exhibits a lack of Christian leadership and backbone.
The picture of the old empty pews is accurate for the PCUSA today.Sad
God to whom we pray and in whom we live and have our being is greater than we imagine no matter what name we use in prayer.
WELL THEY WANT TO END UP AS BEING JUST AS CRAZY AS THE MUSLIMS. BY HAVING ANYTHING TO DO TO SUPPORT THESE EVIL [[ SUB HUMANS]] IF THEY WANT TO BE IN BED WITH THEIR CRAP WELL I HOPE MORE CHURCH GOERS LEAVE ATTENDING SERVICES THEN THERE WILL BE LITTLE OR NOTHING IN REVENUE .ITS THE WAY TO REPAY THE ONES THAT MADE THE SUPPORT DECISION